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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 21:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With every thing that seems to be building throughout this specific subject material, all your opinions are actually rather refreshing. On the other hand, I appologize, but I can not subscribe to your entire suggestion, all be it exhilarating none the less. It seems to us that your comments are actually not entirely justified and in actuality you are generally yourself not really thoroughly convinced of your point. In any event I did take pleasure in examining it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With every thing that seems to be building throughout this specific subject material, all your opinions are actually rather refreshing. On the other hand, I appologize, but I can not subscribe to your entire suggestion, all be it exhilarating none the less. It seems to us that your comments are actually not entirely justified and in actuality you are generally yourself not really thoroughly convinced of your point. In any event I did take pleasure in examining it.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonardo Vera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonardo Vera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matias:
I believe the whole issue here is what to do with excess reserves and that’s not trivial in the case of developing countries. Excess reserves may be used for stabilization purposes, as an instrument of development finance, as a saving fund, as a distributive fund, as reserve assets, in debt-buy back operations or for debt repayment. Your case for fiscal and monetary policy coordination to support counter-cyclical fiscal policy is reasonable from a stabilization point of view, but I am afraid the current impasse between the Kirchners and the Central Bank in Argentina may not help the discussion. Paradoxically, what the impasse shows is that the Central Bank may loose its “independence” and still behaves in a very orthodox fashion. Why? Because the idea that underlies behind the Bicentennial Fund proposal is the return of Argentina to the international financial arena (not to increase the space for full employment policies as you literally argue).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matias:<br />
I believe the whole issue here is what to do with excess reserves and that’s not trivial in the case of developing countries. Excess reserves may be used for stabilization purposes, as an instrument of development finance, as a saving fund, as a distributive fund, as reserve assets, in debt-buy back operations or for debt repayment. Your case for fiscal and monetary policy coordination to support counter-cyclical fiscal policy is reasonable from a stabilization point of view, but I am afraid the current impasse between the Kirchners and the Central Bank in Argentina may not help the discussion. Paradoxically, what the impasse shows is that the Central Bank may loose its “independence” and still behaves in a very orthodox fashion. Why? Because the idea that underlies behind the Bicentennial Fund proposal is the return of Argentina to the international financial arena (not to increase the space for full employment policies as you literally argue).</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Cibils</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Cibils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matías raises some important questions and issues regarding the situation surrounding the recent removal of Argentine Central Bank president. However, I believe there may be a somewhat incomplete reading of the situation, which I hope to expand below. I apologize for the extent but I hope this will help understand the situation. 

1.	Martín Redrado is indeed a neoliberal economist. However, *he was appointed by former president Néstor Kirchner*. Furhtermore, Kirchner´s preferred candidate to replace Redrado was Mario Bleger, a long-time IMF bureaucrat and former CB president under the transitional post-crisis Duhalde admninistration. Nobody doubts Bleger´s neoliberal pedigree. 

	Bleger was also the preferred candidate for CB president of the current Economy Minister, Amado Boudou. Boudou, by the way, is another orthodox economist who received his graduate degree from the ultra neoliberal CEMA, where he eventually also taught. Furthermore, Bleger is also an advisor to Boudou. 

	All of this is to say that the battle over the Central Bank is not a battle against neoliberalism, which is alive and well in Argentina, it is a political power struggle.  

2.	The main issue with how the President fired the CB president is that she did it by decree when the current Argentine legal framework says that it is the Congress´s prerogative to do so. In other words, the president completely disregarded the legal framework. As with the conflict over export taxes mentioned by Kevin, the President could have avoided a major political embarassment had she chosen to act in a more politcally savvy way and respecting the institutions. Te be sure, institutional disrespect has a very long history in Argentina, but the Kirchner´s have done nothing to undo that. 

3.	There is much debate in Argentina surrounding what is the actual level of CB international reserves. While 48 billion is the number generally used, the actual number depends on what is included in the reserve count. Actual reserves could be a lot lower than 48 billion.

	This is relevant because the amount assigned to the “Bicentennary Fund” (more on the name later) is based on a calculation derived from the total amount of reserves (which is subject to debate). The calculation essentially says that CB reserves must be enough to back up the monetary base (at the current exchange rate), and anything beyond that is to “freely disposed of”. The amount to be freely disposed of is unkown if the actual level is unkown. (Aditionally, potential exchange rate fluctuations could have an impact on this number, yet no provision is made for that).

	Incidentally, this “concept” was introduced in the last reform of the CB charter, in order to be able to pay off the IMF, another “progressive” measure of the Kirchner administration: reward the IMF with full payment three years in advance, who undoubtedly shares a substantial part of the blame for the colossal failure of the convertibility regime. Remember that private creditors who entered the 2005 debt swap experienced a 50% &quot;haircut&quot;. 


4.	The stated objective of this fund was that it was to be used to pay Argentina´s public debt. This was supposed to “send a signal” to international financial markets so that Argentina could re-gain access to international markets in order to meet debt service payments this year and next.  

	This is problematic for several reasons. First, it shows that the government´s main priority, just like the neoliberal governments before it, is to pay the debt. Rather than using excess reserves (once their true level has been ascertained) for development purposes, or for eliminating hunger, the goverment prioritizes paying the debt. Second, it also shows that the sustainability of the current debt load is once again becoming an issue. In other words, Argentina appears to not have overcome its debt problems, so characteristic of the neoliberal era inaugurated with the military dictatorship of 1976.

	This is what makes the name of the fund so scandalous. It is named in honour of Argentina´s bicentennary, and yet its purpose is to continue Argentina´s enslavement to international financial markets and the neoliberal logic that it entails. 


In sum, while official rhetoric may have changed from that of the 1990s, the economic model still operated largely under the neoliberal logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matías raises some important questions and issues regarding the situation surrounding the recent removal of Argentine Central Bank president. However, I believe there may be a somewhat incomplete reading of the situation, which I hope to expand below. I apologize for the extent but I hope this will help understand the situation. </p>
<p>1.	Martín Redrado is indeed a neoliberal economist. However, *he was appointed by former president Néstor Kirchner*. Furhtermore, Kirchner´s preferred candidate to replace Redrado was Mario Bleger, a long-time IMF bureaucrat and former CB president under the transitional post-crisis Duhalde admninistration. Nobody doubts Bleger´s neoliberal pedigree. </p>
<p>	Bleger was also the preferred candidate for CB president of the current Economy Minister, Amado Boudou. Boudou, by the way, is another orthodox economist who received his graduate degree from the ultra neoliberal CEMA, where he eventually also taught. Furthermore, Bleger is also an advisor to Boudou. </p>
<p>	All of this is to say that the battle over the Central Bank is not a battle against neoliberalism, which is alive and well in Argentina, it is a political power struggle.  </p>
<p>2.	The main issue with how the President fired the CB president is that she did it by decree when the current Argentine legal framework says that it is the Congress´s prerogative to do so. In other words, the president completely disregarded the legal framework. As with the conflict over export taxes mentioned by Kevin, the President could have avoided a major political embarassment had she chosen to act in a more politcally savvy way and respecting the institutions. Te be sure, institutional disrespect has a very long history in Argentina, but the Kirchner´s have done nothing to undo that. </p>
<p>3.	There is much debate in Argentina surrounding what is the actual level of CB international reserves. While 48 billion is the number generally used, the actual number depends on what is included in the reserve count. Actual reserves could be a lot lower than 48 billion.</p>
<p>	This is relevant because the amount assigned to the “Bicentennary Fund” (more on the name later) is based on a calculation derived from the total amount of reserves (which is subject to debate). The calculation essentially says that CB reserves must be enough to back up the monetary base (at the current exchange rate), and anything beyond that is to “freely disposed of”. The amount to be freely disposed of is unkown if the actual level is unkown. (Aditionally, potential exchange rate fluctuations could have an impact on this number, yet no provision is made for that).</p>
<p>	Incidentally, this “concept” was introduced in the last reform of the CB charter, in order to be able to pay off the IMF, another “progressive” measure of the Kirchner administration: reward the IMF with full payment three years in advance, who undoubtedly shares a substantial part of the blame for the colossal failure of the convertibility regime. Remember that private creditors who entered the 2005 debt swap experienced a 50% &#8220;haircut&#8221;. </p>
<p>4.	The stated objective of this fund was that it was to be used to pay Argentina´s public debt. This was supposed to “send a signal” to international financial markets so that Argentina could re-gain access to international markets in order to meet debt service payments this year and next.  </p>
<p>	This is problematic for several reasons. First, it shows that the government´s main priority, just like the neoliberal governments before it, is to pay the debt. Rather than using excess reserves (once their true level has been ascertained) for development purposes, or for eliminating hunger, the goverment prioritizes paying the debt. Second, it also shows that the sustainability of the current debt load is once again becoming an issue. In other words, Argentina appears to not have overcome its debt problems, so characteristic of the neoliberal era inaugurated with the military dictatorship of 1976.</p>
<p>	This is what makes the name of the fund so scandalous. It is named in honour of Argentina´s bicentennary, and yet its purpose is to continue Argentina´s enslavement to international financial markets and the neoliberal logic that it entails. </p>
<p>In sum, while official rhetoric may have changed from that of the 1990s, the economic model still operated largely under the neoliberal logic.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bicentenary fund, a measure resisted by the Central Bank, has had a destabilizing effect here within Argentina. As Mr. Nadal points out it is unfortunately thought-through strategy to attempt to re-enter the credit market by a government envisioning deficits.

When (the then) Minister Lavagna negotiated the default in 2004 some 30%+ of bond holders held out against the offer. Since then pressure groups (some formed by ex-Clinton economic team executives) fronting for Vulture capital firms (who bought out hold-out bonds) have taken the country to court in the World bank ICSID court. These lobbying firm which claims to represent Italian pension funds is called Task Force Argentina and operates in both the US and Italy. You can read about the suit in my investigative article on same in Americas Policy (.org). 

Someone has convinced the government that it is a good idea to settle with the hold-outs. Could this be an unfortunate down-side of G-20 membership? President Fernandez de Kirchner is not as yet willing to consider the alternative of facing off to the markets by launching an audit on Argentine public external debt as did Ecuador much of which is by definition illegitimate.

Argentina&#039;s president finds herself caught between the rock and a hard place. It should have been evident that vastly spiking loan repayment costs would lead to this kind of drastic measure but long term planning and politics often drag policies in different directions.

It will be an interesting few months here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bicentenary fund, a measure resisted by the Central Bank, has had a destabilizing effect here within Argentina. As Mr. Nadal points out it is unfortunately thought-through strategy to attempt to re-enter the credit market by a government envisioning deficits.</p>
<p>When (the then) Minister Lavagna negotiated the default in 2004 some 30%+ of bond holders held out against the offer. Since then pressure groups (some formed by ex-Clinton economic team executives) fronting for Vulture capital firms (who bought out hold-out bonds) have taken the country to court in the World bank ICSID court. These lobbying firm which claims to represent Italian pension funds is called Task Force Argentina and operates in both the US and Italy. You can read about the suit in my investigative article on same in Americas Policy (.org). </p>
<p>Someone has convinced the government that it is a good idea to settle with the hold-outs. Could this be an unfortunate down-side of G-20 membership? President Fernandez de Kirchner is not as yet willing to consider the alternative of facing off to the markets by launching an audit on Argentine public external debt as did Ecuador much of which is by definition illegitimate.</p>
<p>Argentina&#8217;s president finds herself caught between the rock and a hard place. It should have been evident that vastly spiking loan repayment costs would lead to this kind of drastic measure but long term planning and politics often drag policies in different directions.</p>
<p>It will be an interesting few months here.</p>
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		<title>By: Matías Vernengo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matías Vernengo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nan your point is well taken. Certainly there would way less conflict if the Kirchner&#039;s were not in power.  It is very much a political economy conflict.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nan your point is well taken. Certainly there would way less conflict if the Kirchner&#8217;s were not in power.  It is very much a political economy conflict.</p>
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		<title>By: Matías Vernengo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matías Vernengo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, it&#039;s true that the export taxes would have increased the revenues, and implied that the government could use those additional pesos to pay for the external obligations. Note that they would still use the revenue in pesos to buy dollars in the central bank, since those must be paid in dollars.  However, there is no reason to only have surpluses.  So the government should be allowed to have small deficits, and still buy dollars from the central bank.  That would imply that the central bank will have to hold government bonds or print money, i.e. not be completely independent from the treasury. Can you imagined what would have happened if the Fed did not do quantitative easing and monetary expansion?  So the use of reserves is a good solution!
The Bicentennial Fund is not counter-cyclical policy, Alejandro. It allows them to run fiscal deficits and overcome the inability to borrow from the central bank (by issuing bonds or printing money).  The Bicentennial Fund has nothing to do with the renegotiation of the debt, which is hardly necessary. Remember Argentina has a current account (CA) surplus of 3.7% of GDP. Why would the country want to return to international financial markets, when they just proved incredibly volatile and prone to crisis!!!  The return to international markets is also the result of the crazy straitjacket that the central bank independence imposes on the government.  The CA surplus means that there is an excess of dollars to face foreign obligations, and there is by definition no need to borrow. Only because the government cannot print money or bonds in pesos to exchange at the central bank they were forced to create a fund that would basically transfer dollars from reserves to the government. That is good macro policy.  It would allow Argentina to do counter cyclical policies like the US has done (fiscal and monetary), even though from my point of view those were still not strong enough. Thanks for the good comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, it&#8217;s true that the export taxes would have increased the revenues, and implied that the government could use those additional pesos to pay for the external obligations. Note that they would still use the revenue in pesos to buy dollars in the central bank, since those must be paid in dollars.  However, there is no reason to only have surpluses.  So the government should be allowed to have small deficits, and still buy dollars from the central bank.  That would imply that the central bank will have to hold government bonds or print money, i.e. not be completely independent from the treasury. Can you imagined what would have happened if the Fed did not do quantitative easing and monetary expansion?  So the use of reserves is a good solution!<br />
The Bicentennial Fund is not counter-cyclical policy, Alejandro. It allows them to run fiscal deficits and overcome the inability to borrow from the central bank (by issuing bonds or printing money).  The Bicentennial Fund has nothing to do with the renegotiation of the debt, which is hardly necessary. Remember Argentina has a current account (CA) surplus of 3.7% of GDP. Why would the country want to return to international financial markets, when they just proved incredibly volatile and prone to crisis!!!  The return to international markets is also the result of the crazy straitjacket that the central bank independence imposes on the government.  The CA surplus means that there is an excess of dollars to face foreign obligations, and there is by definition no need to borrow. Only because the government cannot print money or bonds in pesos to exchange at the central bank they were forced to create a fund that would basically transfer dollars from reserves to the government. That is good macro policy.  It would allow Argentina to do counter cyclical policies like the US has done (fiscal and monetary), even though from my point of view those were still not strong enough. Thanks for the good comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Nan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 14:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point is (maybe a bit innocent): if not being a &quot;leftie&quot; president in the Casa Rosada, which has ties with governments as the Venezuelan one, and that has also defend initiatives like Banco del Sur in contrast with the Bretton Woods Institutions dogma, there would be the same cleavage or it&#039;d be different? 
I have my doubts about if this is an economical or a political confrontation. Bussiness as usual is in the front line, and we are &quot;ready&quot; to repeat the same mistakes that has lead us to the greatest and deepest recession. Counter-cyclical economic measures are vox populi, even in Davos, but one thing is to talk about&#039;em and a very different thing to implement&#039;em. Schopenhauer used to say that &quot;All truth goes through three steps: First it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point is (maybe a bit innocent): if not being a &#8220;leftie&#8221; president in the Casa Rosada, which has ties with governments as the Venezuelan one, and that has also defend initiatives like Banco del Sur in contrast with the Bretton Woods Institutions dogma, there would be the same cleavage or it&#8217;d be different?<br />
I have my doubts about if this is an economical or a political confrontation. Bussiness as usual is in the front line, and we are &#8220;ready&#8221; to repeat the same mistakes that has lead us to the greatest and deepest recession. Counter-cyclical economic measures are vox populi, even in Davos, but one thing is to talk about&#8217;em and a very different thing to implement&#8217;em. Schopenhauer used to say that &#8220;All truth goes through three steps: First it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Alejandro Nadal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alejandro Nadal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you think the Bicentennial Fund is countercyclical policy? The explicit objective of the Bicentennial Fund is to ensure Argentina’s return to the international financial markets as it faces USD $13 billion of external debt due for maturity in 2010. Don’t forget Argentina also needs to settle accounts with creditors who rejected the swap in 2005 (another USD $ 30 billion). With the Bicentennial Fund the government seeks to assuage creditors’ anxieties. The message is clear: Argentina is decided to continue servicing its debt even with its reserves. Nothing countercyclical here. The Kirchner administration may be simply establishing the foundations for another cycle of growing indebtedness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you think the Bicentennial Fund is countercyclical policy? The explicit objective of the Bicentennial Fund is to ensure Argentina’s return to the international financial markets as it faces USD $13 billion of external debt due for maturity in 2010. Don’t forget Argentina also needs to settle accounts with creditors who rejected the swap in 2005 (another USD $ 30 billion). With the Bicentennial Fund the government seeks to assuage creditors’ anxieties. The message is clear: Argentina is decided to continue servicing its debt even with its reserves. Nothing countercyclical here. The Kirchner administration may be simply establishing the foundations for another cycle of growing indebtedness.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin P. Gallagher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin P. Gallagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These events could have been avoided if Kirchner had been successful in passing the agricultural export tax she proposed during the boom.  Despite the criticism in the mainstream press the Kirchner&#039;s were attempting to deploy, at least in spirit, sound counter-cyclical policy: increase taxes and surpluses during a boom so they can be alleviated and spent during a bust.  Kirchner was unsuccessful at that effort, and has thus resorted to approaching the central bank for reserves, which obviously raises more questions.  Though the spirit of both these attempts at counter-cyclical policy seems generally on target, it seems that the Kirchners lack the political savvy to get the job done.  Sound familiar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These events could have been avoided if Kirchner had been successful in passing the agricultural export tax she proposed during the boom.  Despite the criticism in the mainstream press the Kirchner&#8217;s were attempting to deploy, at least in spirit, sound counter-cyclical policy: increase taxes and surpluses during a boom so they can be alleviated and spent during a bust.  Kirchner was unsuccessful at that effort, and has thus resorted to approaching the central bank for reserves, which obviously raises more questions.  Though the spirit of both these attempts at counter-cyclical policy seems generally on target, it seems that the Kirchners lack the political savvy to get the job done.  Sound familiar?</p>
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